"Nemo Resideo - The Battle for my Identity"
09 Apr 2019 –
0530 hrs – Lally Virk. “Nemo Resideo…..The Battle for my Identity”.
These are not
my usual musings.
I am plucking a
leaf from my life of the last five years, to tell you all how seemingly
insurmountable obstacles can be overcome if one has the strength of one’s
convictions, courage, will, grit, determination and perseverance.
No, no it’s not
about what some of you close to me will be thinking……
This is about my
fight for my ‘Identity’. This is about my fight to ‘Redeem my Honour’.
I have always
believed that challenges are what make life interesting and overcoming them is
what makes life meaningful.
World over from
times immemorial, the Armed Forces have steadfastly and stoically believed in
the motto, “Nemo Resideo” - “No one left behind”.
It is said, “The
mechanics of warfare are sterile when you are sitting in an air conditioned
office”.
Unfortunately, in
the Indian context it is these very men sitting in air conditioned offices, sliding on shrimp sandwiches their whole lives, who call the shots making
lopsided policies for the Armed Forces and thrusting them down the throats of
our meek top brass sitting with drooping shoulders in the Army
Headquarters. Just because these
policies do not affect them, these red tabs are willing to abandon their own and
steal the very identity of their soldiers who have given the prime years of
their lives to this very Armed Forces in the service of the Nation.
Here is what
happened……………..
About 6 years
back I had visited the Zila Sainik Board in Gurgaon to get a document, which I
thought would take just 5 minutes. It was an Ex-Serviceman Certificate to be
given to a Government department. I got the shock of my life when I was told by
this Air Force youngster sitting there as the Zila Sainik Officer, “Sir, as per
the latest orders you do not qualify as an Ex-Serviceman”.
Aghast and
feeling slighted I walked out of his office.
I came back
home and, as is normal with most of us married folks, carried out the debriefing
of my visit with my wife, Jasmin. Seeing me looking a bit upset, her immediate
reaction was, “Relax Lally, what do we need it for. Forget it”.
Well, “Forget
it….." I tried, but the uneasiness persisted for the next few days. The
‘humiliation of sorts’ at the Zila Sainik office started weighing heavily on
my mind.
I had given the
best years of my life in the service of the nation to the Armed Forces of the
Union of India. With one stroke how could they just obliterate all those years
I had spent in Olive Greens? What about all the tears, the sweat and the blood
spilt over the years ? Did it all come to naught ? How could they, just on a
whim, disown me ? How could they shake the very foundation on which soldiers have laid down their lives and Armies have marched from times immemorial, "Nemo Resideo"?
Well, time
moved on, and I tried to put this behind me with the thought that ‘well how
does it matter at this late stage of my life? What difference does it make?
What do I need it for?’
But try as I
might I couldn’t put this behind me.
I had given 17
years of my life and soul to the Armed Forces. I was compelled to seek
premature retirement for reasons far beyond my control, probably as ordained by
Providence. I was honourably granted Pre-mature Retirement. I retired as a
substantive Major. I had an excellent career profile with a brilliant track
record. I was an ‘Alpha’ in every course that I attended. My men swore by me. I
was playing a brilliant game of golf and had represented the Regiment of
Artillery team besides the Southern Command team for the Services. I was also playing
hockey for the Regiment of Artillery Hockey team, initially as a playing member
and subsequently as the Manager of the Artillery hockey team, where we had two
national level players with us. I had also served as an Instructor in my Alma
Mater, the National Defence Academy. I had served in the toughest of terrains,
be it the jungles of Assam, the deserts of Suratgarh in Rajasthan, the harsh
mountains of Darbuk in Ladakh and the treacherous landslide prone hillsides of
Sikkim. How could they just wipe out all those years? How could they suddenly
decide to disown me?
For 21 years,
after hanging my spurs prematurely, I was treated as a bonafde Ex-Serviceman.
Who was I today ?
Who was I today ?
Wasn’t our
credo, “We don’t leave our men behind”?
That is when I
decided to make amends and take necessary action.
I decided to
take on the might of the Union of India.
But I had scant
knowledge of the route to be taken. I was quite cut off from my comrades in
arms. WhatsApp and social media were not very active then.
Years back, under
the aegis of the Directorate of Resettlement, I had done a resettlement course
meant only for bonafide Ex-Servicemen. So I decided to approach them. I checked
who the DGR was and learnt it was some Maj Gen Amrik Singh. A little more
probing and I discovered, “Ay teh sadda apna Amrika haiga, Echo Sqn wala”.
With a bit of
hesitation in my mind, thinking whether he would remember me or not after all
those years, I approached him. He did remember me well and immediately asked
his staff officer to get in touch with me who asked me to put up an application
seeking clarification. I wrote that application which was forwarded by DGR to
the AG’s branch. After a month came the reply from AG that as per the latest definition
of DoP&T, I did not qualify as an Ex-Serviceman (ESM).
For the
uninitiated, let me tell you briefly what this DoP&T definition of
Ex-Serviceman is....As per this definition, a short service commissioned officer
with just 5 years of service is classified as an Ex-Serviceman. Incredulously,
a Regular Permanent Commissioned Officer who seeks Pre-mature Retirement even
after 19 years 364 days of service is not classified as an Ex-Serviceman, and
mind you the pre-commission training period, which for an Ex-NDA is 4 long
years, is not counted towards your service.
It is so ironical, that these same bureaucrats grant themselves pension if they take premature retirement after 10 years of service, besides counting their training period towards their service. But they wipe out the very existence of an Officer of the Armed Forces who takes premature retirement even after putting in 19 years and 364 days of service, by denying him the very basic identity and status of an Ex-Serviceman.
Sadly, this travesty of justice has been accepted by our top brass, who have willingly abandoned their own.
This injustice was not acceptable to me.
It is so ironical, that these same bureaucrats grant themselves pension if they take premature retirement after 10 years of service, besides counting their training period towards their service. But they wipe out the very existence of an Officer of the Armed Forces who takes premature retirement even after putting in 19 years and 364 days of service, by denying him the very basic identity and status of an Ex-Serviceman.
Sadly, this travesty of justice has been accepted by our top brass, who have willingly abandoned their own.
This injustice was not acceptable to me.
With the cause
established, I could now knock on the doors of the courts.
But how?
But how?
By then good
friend Cheema had moved to Delhi as the Deputy Chief of Army Staff. I spoke to
him about what I intended to do. He asked me to come to his office to discuss
this. After a nice hearty lunch in the DCOAS's plush office, Cheema called the DG
PS to his office. After hearing me out the DG PS said, “Sir, I am convinced of
your case but as you are aware we are not in a position to amend any policy
laid down by MOD. You will have to approach the AFT”.
After a nice
hot cup of tea, I left Cheema’s office with a fresh resolve but a bit weary of
the long haul ahead.
I made out a
draft of my case and sent it to one of our own who is a legal eagle. Sadly, I
received no response from him.
A bit
disappointed, but with my resolve strengthened further, I drove down to the AFT in RK Puram,
New Delhi and finalised a lawyer who had a good record. He heard me out and
assured me that I had a very good case and we would win. I had already prepared
the draft of my case, which I handed over to him.
After a delay
of some 2 months which is normal with these lawyers, with some prodding and
jostling, my case was finally filed in the AFT sometime in early 2017.
There are 3 courts/benches
in AFT Delhi and depending on the case it is allotted to one of the courts. As
bad luck would have it, my case was allotted to Court No. 2, a bench considered
to be very hostile to Officers.
On the day of
the first hearing, I drove down to Delhi with a lot of trepidation. At about 1030
hrs my turn came. I could not see my lawyer. The Union of India (UOI) was
represented by 3 lawyers including one JAG Major. Suddenly I saw one dopey
looking youngish lawyer get up and take the stand meant for Complainants. The
first hearing is to ascertain if a case has merit and is worth admitting. The
Complainants lawyer presents his case to the bench and the bench takes an
immediate call to dismiss it or admit it. The bench consists of one Judicial
Member who is a retired High Court Judge of repute and one Administrative
Member who is a retired Lt Gen or equivalent from the Armed Forces.
I found this junior lawyer stuttering and stammering as he presented my case. The Judge asked
this novice a few questions of which he had no idea at all. My case was
on the verge of being dismissed on the first hearing itself. I was sitting on
the 3rd row with panic written all over my face. Suddenly I saw this
lady lawyer sitting in front of me turn around and say, “Sir, isn’t this your
case.” I said, “Yes”. “It’s on the verge of being dismissed. Please stand up
and go and stand next to that ignorant lawyer”. I immediately jumped up and
took the stand next to this lawyer. The Judge looked at me and asked, “Are you
Major Virk?” I said, “Yes Sir”. He started going over my OA again and kept
asking me, “Do you have this document, and this and this…….”. I replied in the
affirmative. “Then why haven’t you produced them to support your case?” “Sir I
just went with the advice of the lawyer”. He looked at me and says, “Can I see
all these documents”. Fortunately I had carried my original file with me. I
quickly rummaged through my file and handed over all those documents to the
court. The Judges scrutinised all the documents and looked at me and said,
“Submit all these documents with an Affidavit in a week’s time. We find merit
in the case. The case is admitted”.
Relief writ
large on my face, I gathered my loose file and hurried out of the courtroom.
Once outside, I blasted this amateur lawyer and made my way to the first floor
of the AFT, Principal Bench, New Delhi where the bar room is located to bind my
loose file back.
There I saw
this lady lawyer who was my saviour and walked up to thank her. But for her, my
case would have been dismissed. She turned out to be a Supreme Court lawyer, fighting her own husband’s case in
AFT. To this day I remain grateful and thankful to her.
On the lighter
side, she paid me a compliment by telling me that, “Major Virk, whenever your
case comes up for hearing please stand up and let the Judges see you. You’ll
win half the case with your personality only”.
Well,
personality for me has always been a double-edged sword. It has mostly worked
in my favour in life but there are times when people have gotten a bit intimidated
and it’s worked against me. However, I did keep her advice in mind throughout
the duration of the case.
At the end of
the second hearing, I realised my domain knowledge was far superior to the
lawyer I had hired because during the course of this hearing there were things
that I wanted to tell the court but couldn’t as once you hire a lawyer and give
him your mandate only he can speak and argue your case.
I came back
home a bit disappointed at the way the second hearing had gone. It was then
that I decided to take the reins in my hands and I recused the lawyer.
I decided to
fight the case myself. Though it was a tough ask but in the hindsight it turned
out to be the best decision I could have taken.
As the hearings
progressed, the bench started showing its true colours with the way seemingly straightforward
simple things were being twisted in legal jargon by the crafty Judicial Judge. I
was beginning to realise that my battle was more with the bench than with the
lawyer team of the Respondents.
The legal
system in India relies on past precedence’s and judgments. Normally no Judge
wants to stick his neck out and give a path breaking decision.
Not being a
lawyer and having scant knowledge of the courtroom craftiness, I battled on in
all my innocence and straight forwardness. My intention was not to rely on past
precedence’s and judgments but win the case on its merits. This made it all the
more difficult for me. With all the research and knowledge I had acquired on
the subject, I wanted to turn the very definition on its head and prove to the
court how defunct, redundant and faulty this definition was.
Unfortunately,
during the course of the hearings I realised this retired Judge was not even interested
in going over my well-researched submissions supported with documentary
evidence. In each hearing it was like beginning from scratch and explaining the
whole case over and over again.
Frustration
began to set in. But I knew the key word was ‘Patience’.
The Judges
summoned the ADG PS for certain clarifications on this DoP&T definition of
Ex-serviceman. With great fanfare, our man came with three junior subordinates including
a JAG Col from his Legal cell, and made a much prepared rehearsed statement in
court, “Sir, over the years we have been very consistent with the definition of
Ex-Serviceman…..etc etc etc”, which as such was the most incorrect statement to
make. I told the court, “Sir out of sheer respect for his uniform I would not
like to humiliate him in court so I will hold my counsel, but the statement
made by him is laughable which I will prove to you subsequently”. And in the
next hearing I did just that.
Months passed.
Seasons changed. The case dragged on and on.
I think what
turned the tide and got things in my favour, besides of course, the
righteousness of the case and the strength of my convictions and pleadings, was
what I said while addressing the bench in one of the hearings where I had
proved to the court the number of times this so called ‘consistent definition’,
as so wrongly claimed by the ADG PS, had been randomly changed at the whims and
fancies of some Babu in MOD. To make matters
worse, these changes over the years were meekly accepted by our heavy weight
red tabs in AHQ.
After proving
to the court with hard evidence how this definition had been changed 4 times in
a span of 7 months, making a mockery of Ex-Servicemen, this is what I had told
the court.
“Sorry for the
harsh words My Lordships, but surely a Soldier serving at 50 degrees Celsius in
Suratgarh, or -36 degrees in Darbuk or walking 30 kms in peak monsoon with a
Mule Pack Artillery Regiment in the jungles of Assam needs to be shown more
sensitivity by the Policy makers. My Lordships does the Ministry of Defence
(MOD) even realise the damage being inflicted and the impact it is having on
the lives of thousands of soldiers? Is the definition of an Ex-Serviceman that
frivolous a commodity?”
The respondent
lawyers had no defence and the Judges had no answer.
What I was
beginning to realise was that for good or for bad, much as I tried to keep it
all on facts and merit, my pleadings always tugged at the emotional aspect. I
was not a lawyer. So it was but natural for me to get emotional since it
involved me and an important phase of my life. Probably, this also worked in my
favour.
As the hearings
progressed, gradually I could see this hostile bench beginning to see reason and
was turning in my favour.
Strange are the
ways of God. This is when calamity struck. During the course of this case, fate
dealt a severe blow to the ‘Virk’ family.
I was now
fighting a battle on two fronts. But 'having crossed the Rubicon', there was no looking back now.
Not wanting
to garner any kind of sympathy, I did not disclose anything to the court.
Well, to cut it
all short, it was a long bitter battle I fought over 3 years. The Union of
India/MOD/COAS was represented by a panel of 4 lawyers. Two civilians and two
Jag officers. I was the lone crusader this side of the stand, but I fought my
heart out.
The day finally
dawned when having exhausted my entire arsenal, I addressed the court for one
last time. I still remember verbatim what I told the bench.
“To sum up My
Lordships, I have more than proved my case beyond a shadow of doubt with each
word spoken by me supported by hard evidence. Other than flogging a defunct, redundant
non-applicable definition, the respondents have no case at all. My Lordships,
at this late stage of my life there is nothing that the Indian Army can give
me. Probably, I can give back more. I had a brilliant career in the Indian
Army. I had no reason to leave. But I was compelled to seek pre-mature
retirement for reasons far beyond my control to probably fulfil a higher
purpose in life. During one of the hearings, My Lordship, you had asked me,
‘What will you gain from it now’, and I had kept quiet. Well, let me tell you
what I will gain from it. Sir, I am a 3rd
generation soldier. For our creed it is more about Honour, Prestige, Pride
& Izzat. We lay down our lives for our Naam, Namak aur Nishan. Having given the prime
years of my life to the Indian Army in the service of the Nation, the least
that I can expect now in the sunset years of my life is to be given a
respectful burial in the Brar Square. Would you like to deny that to me, Sir?
I have nothing more to say My Lordships”.
I have nothing more to say My Lordships”.
Spent and
exhausted, I sat down.
I still remember
there was pin drop silence in the court for a good about 15 seconds after I had
finished. The Judges were visibly moved.
The case was
reserved for Judgment.
As I collected
all my files and walked out, five to six lawyers came to me and shook my hand.
They said, “Sir, You have won your case. There were tears in the eyes of the
courtroom”.
On 21st
Dec 2018, the bench pronounced my Judgment. My OA was allowed. My Ex-Serviceman
status was honourably restored with all entitled privileges.
My stand vindicated,
my honour restored, “Major Harpal Singh Virk (Veteran)” proudly made his way to
his car.
As I sat down
and triumphantly drove off in my car with the windows down, letting the crisp
winter air sweep in, I remember singing “Auld Lang Syne” loudly till I reached
home.
This chapter of
my life came a full circle, when on 03rd Apr 2019, the same Zila
Sainik Board, Gurgaon came to my doorstep to ‘respectfully’ inform me that I
was a bonafide "Ex-Serviceman" and invited me to collect the ESM Identity Card
along with the “Ex-Serviceman Certificate”.
The Take-Home :
Professional: There is no denying the fact that the MOD has over the years, supported by the Political Party in power, consciously and consistently made policies which have been against the welfare of the Soldier. Besides, of course, consistently downgrading the status enjoyed by us since independence which ironically has today dipped even below the CAPF. However, more often than not, it is our own top brass in the AHQ who meekly follow and implement these policies, who have done more harm to their own by axing our own feet time and again. Rather than firing all their 'policyed guns' from the MOD's shoulders against their own, if they ever bother to scratch a little below the surface they will realise that things can be resolved within our own fraternity most of the time. Mine was one such classic case where our own top brass was more to blame than the babus of MOD.
The Take-Home :
Professional: There is no denying the fact that the MOD has over the years, supported by the Political Party in power, consciously and consistently made policies which have been against the welfare of the Soldier. Besides, of course, consistently downgrading the status enjoyed by us since independence which ironically has today dipped even below the CAPF. However, more often than not, it is our own top brass in the AHQ who meekly follow and implement these policies, who have done more harm to their own by axing our own feet time and again. Rather than firing all their 'policyed guns' from the MOD's shoulders against their own, if they ever bother to scratch a little below the surface they will realise that things can be resolved within our own fraternity most of the time. Mine was one such classic case where our own top brass was more to blame than the babus of MOD.
Personal: I
have always been of the firm opinion that your convictions are the compasses of life that help you move in the right direction. They are the foundation stones
that help us to stand firm when everything around us is shaking and sinking.
They are the possessions that define who we are. They determine parameters that
in turn chart the course of our lives.
When
it comes to convictions, this old saying always stands true, “If you don’t stand
up for anything, you will fall down for everything”.
That
is why it is truly important and critical for us to solidify our non-negotiable
values.
This
was one such saga of non-negotiable values.
“Ire Fortiter Quo Nemo Ante iit”
~ Be a Trail Blazer ~
~ Be a Trail Blazer ~
P.S. Throughout
the course of this fight over the 3 years and continues to this day even after
hanging his spurs, my pillar of support has been, AJ Singh. My friend, my brother,
I have no words to express my gratitude and thankfulness to you. “General –
they don’t make them like you any longer. I thank you from the core of my being”.
Major Harpal Singh Virk (Veteran)
Lally,
ReplyDeleteThat is a great victory.
Bravo.
I am so glad you put your travails in writing for everyone to read and learn. A great write up and super effort. They dont make 'perfect men' like you any more.
DeleteMakes for a beautiful script to turn into a film. You can do it. God bless
Fabulously valiant definitely engrossing tale of your struggle which gives courage to the veterans and hopefullyay the light may Dawn upon the top brass to assiduously stand up for what we are entitled to just as any self respecting nation does to its military, rather than buckle down with our below CAPF and MES status.
DeleteIt will be restored soon, is my hope, though it doesn't affect a veteran financially, emotionally it's
This point should go from units as agenda point for commanders conference for reconsideration of policy. No Co will forward. This is the situation.
DeleteVetrans once united for OROP were soon divided on methodology of approach to deal with Govt. Later after getting partial OROP thought great favour done by Govt.
Naam, Namak, Nishaan - the main pillars of the armed forces - diminish greatly beyond the Unit (battalion and regiment) level. And the Unit level is the mainstay of the armed forces.
ReplyDeleteThis diminishing is sad.
Especially as it is mostly only those operating beyond the Unit level who interact with people outside the armed forces. Civilians form their impressions and opinions based on that interaction, often giving a completely incorrect view of what matters most to a person of the armed forces.
Thank you for your tenacious stand. More power to you, and may we have many more like you.
Well said sir, the fauj is changing but we must preserve the value system.
DeleteYes Fauj is changing but is it for good of the nation or for fauji himself ?
DeleteCivilian voters must know reality through Vetrans as Govt of the day always give their version to masses.
You've put it very aptly! The basic ethos which we imbibed during our formative years gets badly diluted beyond Unit level and this lopsided image of the forces is what Civilians get to see at the various levels of interaction in Peace Stations and at Service HQs.
DeleteHad everyone at higher levels of command retained the personal integrity and sense of honour displayed by Maj Harpal Virk, we would have attained unrivalled levels of institutional excellence.
We grew up with slogans like 'One for All, All for One.... We never leave our own behind, whatever the circumstances' etc, and here we have our own organization using all its legal resources to contest a proud Third Generation Officer's plea for his honour and well earned status! What a travesty!
My younger brother Kiren, had the privilege to serve under your command.
Thanks to Maj Virk and his hardwork, the definition of esm has now been changed and anyone getting any gratuity will be esm.
DeleteThank you. I am impacted by the same case. After taking premature retirement, I enjoyed ex-serviceman status and privileges until one day I was told that I'm more longer an ex-serviceman. You have shown the path and hopefully I will have it reinstated too.
ReplyDeleteI live in the US and visit India only occasionally. Will reapply the next time I am down
A poet in rather simple words... has written it, rather beautifully. Lally its apt in your "legal course of action".
ReplyDeleteअपने हक़ की लड़ाई लड़ना मेरी मजबूरी नहीं जरूरत है,
तुम चाहें कुचल दो जला दो या लाठियां बरसा दो,
ये सवाल पूछना मेरी आदत नही हिम्मत है,
Buddy... love you.
Sobti.
I fully agree with you on the point about our own have been most responsible for the dilution of status of the armed forces we see these days.
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ReplyDeleteGreat grit Sir.
ReplyDeleteWould be an honour to speak to you. I am at Gurgaon . 9810627337. Col s d Malhotra
Salute to you for your courage and conviction for a righteous cause. A lesson for those sitting in AHQ to be more professional with courage of conviction as their actions have long term impact on matter military.
ReplyDeleteManzil milay, milay na milay
ReplyDeleteManzil ka gum Nahi hai
Manzil ki zustzu mein Mera caravan toe Hai
Kuchh kah sakay Hammay yeh Zamana
Zamanay mein Dum Nahi Hai
Hammi say hai Zamana
Zamane say Hum Nahi hai
Carry on. A
Night Fall Day breaks
Himmatay marda
Madadey khuda
Very encouraging and well represented case. It will show the path to others who intend to represent their cases of injustice in the labyrinths of mischievous bureaucracy and docile subservient our Seniors sitting in our Hqs. Salute you Major for successfully winning your case.👍💪👊🙏
ReplyDeleteVery encouraging and well represented case. It will show the path to others who intend to represent their cases of injustice in the labyrinths of mischievous bureaucracy and docile subservient our Seniors sitting in our Hqs. Salute you Major for successfully winning your case.👍💪👊🙏
ReplyDeleteSalute to your spirit and fortitude in pursuing this case to its logical conclusion. The difficult journey would have seen the many moments of tribulations.
ReplyDeleteRespect and Regards sir
May you be blessed for your fortitude and courage of convictions! Thanks for sharing your hard experience.
ReplyDeleteSir,
ReplyDeleteWow! is the word, can't say more. Very emotional, being a veteran one understands the pinch. Try we may the OLIVE dosen't leave. As they say once a soldier always a soldier.
What a great story sir. The beauty if the writing is the way you have not let it device into a diatribe against the organisation. You have manager to being out the short coming with the focus being on your own fight for honour. Truly inspirational. I have taken the liberty of sharing it with others without your permission.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely! As befits a Third Generation Officer hailing from a noble martial lineage
DeleteVirk Sir
ReplyDeleteI was your cadet in NDA. You continue to inspire us. Sajan found this for all of us to read and take renewed hope in the fight for justice. Proud of you. Best regards Shamit Biswas A/77
What a great story sir. The beauty of the writing is the way you have not let it devolve into a diatribe against the organisation. You have managed to bring out the shortcomings with the focus being on your own fight for honour. Truly inspirational. I have taken the liberty of sharing it with others without your permission.
ReplyDeletePublishing the comment again after correcting the errors caused by 'auto correct'
Well covered Lally. Will follow it up post the elections. Pushing it now would have limited value. Such cases cannot be allowed to happen. It is true that in legal issues we leave our own behind. Let's hope the govt sees sense. Kudos brother
ReplyDeleteAn eye opener, it can be a case study for officers at all levels ( for youngsters to fight for the RIGHT and for Senior Officers to have morality to part of the right and be responsible to the under command.
ReplyDeletePatience and perseverance always pays.
The learning is simple. Anyone who can support himself from other means, should not join the armed forces. Now it is only for those who find no other way to earn their daily bread
ReplyDeleteBravo Major Virk, you fought like a soldier even after retirement. People do not realise that OROP fight too is for izzat & ,asking the Govt to fulfill their own promise given in parliament but most consider this as bickering by Armed Forces when part has been given by Govt. Hope sooner or later they will realise the real reason behind all such protests. Truth will eventually prevail.
ReplyDeleteMajor Harpal
ReplyDeleteImpressed you need such legends in the Defence Forces.
2. You made us proud.
God Bless
Regards,
CDR.APS Keith
Dear Maj Virk,
ReplyDeleteIt was so exciting to go thro and strengthening our beliefs of convictions of our own will power, preservence and energy so strogly
put forward by your brilliant and extra ordinary courage
Pl accept my Salutation upon your presentation of the most meritorious
case in the most skillfull way !
Well done !
Lovely !
With great regards
Capt Charan Singh Dhillon
SS Tech 9 Ex OTS,Madras.
Proud of You Dear Maj Virk !!!
ReplyDeleteBRAVO !
Amazing perseverance. Hats off sir for your lone battle amidst heavy odds and emerging victorious.
ReplyDeleteI admire your percieverance and patience.
ReplyDeleteThe top brass do lack courage of conviction
Democracy does not say you become subservient to babus
who have no idea of soldiers psyche.
Great story sir . Truly inspiring . Kudos and salute to your indomitable spirit . God Bless .
ReplyDeleteBravo sir, An honourable battle, honourably won, on behalf of a much wider community
ReplyDeleteSir yours is an inspiring story. Salute to you.
ReplyDeleteMoved and shaken by your toil, sir. As some one else commented.... They don't make men like you anymore in the armed forces. Nowadays the pre requisite is to be servile, subservient and meek to climb the proverbial ladder of monkeys. Wish your story inspires many more serving officers to be bold, speak out and stand against the system when required to uphold ones naam, namal and nishan. Jai Hind!
ReplyDeleteOne of BEST READINGS in my life.
ReplyDeleteWell done Maj Virk. You are worth PVC in your efforts.
At the end of reading I had tears of compassion and contentment in my eyes.
Congratulations to you and your family. I salute you RESPECTED MAJ VIRK
Regards
Appreciate your efforts and kudos to you. You are the winner....
ReplyDeleteCongrats n well done Maj Virk, Retd.
ReplyDeleteU hit d nail on d head - it is our very own who don't stand n speak 4 de troops dey command 4 some maybe petty personal gain somewhere in life.
Cry 4 d Chetwode credo.
Bye till some SAM blooms.
I can very well empathize and relate with you as I also have fought an AFT case. It really requires a strong determination, resolve with a great amount of patience as you mentioned to continue fighting a case for not personal reason but for the community as a whole. Another case being presently fought single handedly like this is NFFU case! A heart felt salute and many congratulations to you Sir.
ReplyDeleteInspirational..... it also needs to be noted neither everyone is so brilliant as Maj Virk nor everyone has a General for a brother... Also entirely in agreement about the political bias against the Armed Foirces ever since the dismemberment of Pakistan, Indo Pak War 1971... Humiliation of Sam.... but all these need to be taken in the stride, the world is neither perfect nor unchanging
ReplyDeleteWhat an inspiring account of great grit and determination sir! Lesser people would have probably given up!! Your PMR has certainly been a loss for the Army. We desperately need strongly willed leadership at the top which sadly is conspicuous by its absence.
ReplyDeleteGood shooting, Major Virk. My compliments on your resolute battle against an obstinate and obdurate AHQ/MoD combine. Shows the AG's Branch in very poor light. And so also the JAG Branch- either they don't render the correct advice or the AG/MoD don't listen to them. Good luck and Godspeed in all that you do.
ReplyDeleteWell done Virk. Great to see you slug it out like a true fighter you always were in 246.
ReplyDeleteKudos to Lally the fighter. A war well fought and deservingly won
ReplyDeleteHats off to your conviction and perseverance sir. Nicely put across for others to get inspired. Few queries.
ReplyDeleteDoes your case has a judgement on amendment of ESM definition OR only your status is reinstated?
In either case, is it possible for you to mention your judgement or forward it on email?
Regards
Sir,
ReplyDeleteKudos to u for having fought for what u believed in and truly deserve. I am also an ex Army officer , served for 7 years and took premature release. Even we are denied ESM status. However those who have served for 5 years are eligible. Can u pls guide how I can fight my case
Regards
What to comment Sir. But, your fight was worst than fighting with the dreaded enemy Sir. Please share your address if you can so that I can touch your feet. Nothing more to say Sir.
ReplyDeleteYours sincerely,
An air warrior..,.
'AMAT VICTORIA CURAM' VICTORY LOVES PREPARATION...SIR you have excelled in every letter of this credo,your steely resolve has not only enabled you to reclaim your honour which belongs rightfully to you but has opened the avenue to others to follow your footsteps as well,SALUTE TO YOU SIR,
ReplyDeleteYou are an inspiration to all those who fight a dishonest, morally corrupt and insensitive system. Like you rightly stated most of the time it is a lonely battle and many lack the will to go on till it reaches it's logical conclusion. Unfortunately they don't make officers like you anymore. Fighting an outside enemy is probably easier. Fighting one of our own requires much more. For me, you are a hero. God bless you with many future successes.
ReplyDeleteGreat determination and hard work. A lesson to be brought to our most Generals before' they put on the coveted rank, to not to deter themself from their basics. Fateh ho ke rahegi ....
ReplyDeleteMy salute to you....not just as a veteran TOA veteran...but as a human being to another....who fought for his rights....and through his victory...managed to gain a veteran status for many others of the past and those who are yet to hang their uniform like you....God Bless...Jai Hind
ReplyDeleteBravo the ASCENDER
ReplyDeleteBravo..!
ReplyDeleteHowever, I still fail to understand why we were not on your side..for we are together in it...March on Sir..hats off..!
Col Ramakrishnan 9947722146
ReplyDeleteI have no words to convey my best appreciation for single handedly fought and won against all odds.. Your story must be shared to all serving and retd top brasses to change their attitude as they higher in rank.. Kudos.. Well written. Superb
ReplyDeleteAn inspiring endeavour sir. You have given real value to this fight by sharing it with all of us. System may or may not improve but the lesson driven from this fight (I would not say it story) will improve life of many.....Jai hind
ReplyDeleteBest wishes to you Sir! I admire your tenacious spirit! Some day I hope that even SSC offrs are given recognition for their service!
ReplyDeleteFrom this hard earned victorious saga of Harpal Virk, I am more than convinced that we need to put our house in order before we blame MOD for everything.
ReplyDeleteRaj Bhutani
Maj Harpal Singh Virk I salute you for fighting and winning the case. It's our own so called Generals who failed and not the MOD. It was my short stint at Air HQs where I saw how defunct our senior officers are.
ReplyDeleteSir, you are an inspirational epic. We can only hope to emulate
ReplyDeleteBravo sir. More importantly kudos to you for bringing out so vividly. Truely inspiring.
ReplyDeleteWell done Major Harpal Singh Virk. Proud of you. Never give in to these scums of the nation. Left to them they will handover their honour and dignity to the enemy. Don't know how UPSC can ever select people like these.
ReplyDeleteWe are proud of our Alma Mater NDA. I have found those of us have gone thru the grind together under stand this relationship of sweat together.
Never give in to these buffoons. When the underlying intention is honourable, then God helps you in form of the lady, your friends help you, luck is with you and the weather and winds in your favour.
I wish the name of that bastard who made such a rule can be exposed.
Woods are lovely dark and deep but we gave promises to keep. Miles to go before we sleep and miles to go before we sleep. Make it a point to help another human being whom you can help and who is being wrongfully harmed.
God bless you.
Wg Cdr H S Sandhu
52 nd, Lima Sqn
Bravo Maj Virk. I am super happy for you. Our starred officers at Service HQs have done us more harm than babus / netas. I do not know why these Generals are unable to call, "a spade a spade"? Good luck to you. You are an inspiration to others.
ReplyDeleteBravo. This case should be well circulated and more so among the serving lot.
ReplyDeleteMy heart filled happiness for a well deserved win. Salutes to your patience and conviction.
ReplyDeleteHappy regards
Sir proud to be an exNDA after reading your story... it is tragic what the Heavy red tabs are doing to this army. Thank you so much for sharing your saga which is no less than the other battles fought by this valiant army
ReplyDeleteTruly mesmerising read sir. A battle well fought in the courtroom. You have gone to prove that a soldier is always a soldier whether in battlefd or in courtroom. Respect ur grit, determination and will to fight against all odds for ur self respect.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you mean by "Even CAPFs"? Army has it's own place and capCA have their own. Why you need to compare everything with CAPFs? Why this insecurity?
ReplyDeleteBravo. Knowing what you have been through on your personal front, taking up this fight and winning it deserves nothing but praise
ReplyDeleteHope all is well at home
Kohli
Lally Virk...proud of u..true NDA spirit..which slowly is fading away...courage of conviction n grit displayed by u to earn ur IDENTITY is laudable n worthy of emulation...god be WITH u
ReplyDeleteHearties congratulations sir,this verdict has given hope for justice to many. Even one day in uniform is an ex servicemen
ReplyDeleteSalute to you sir, proud of you and your determination. Regards and Jai Hind.
ReplyDeleteHimmat-e- mardaan- madad-e- Khudaah!
ReplyDeleteCommendable contribution to the Armed Forces Personnel by you, whilst not in uniform.
ReplyDeleteOnce a soldier always a soldier.
May your story be a lesson to our serving top notches , to brace up and behave in a manner that behoves the rank they wear on their shoulders.
May God Bless you in all your endeavours.
Perhaps you can take up the cause of many with the experience you gained in dealing with our blockheads in AFT's.
It's an act of grit, grind & grime. I am honoured to read your steadfast and successful battle in courts. Obviously it shows you did well while in uniform. It clearly reflects poorly on heavy weights of army. You are a fighter. Pl accept my heartiest congratulations for your victory. Surely, it's a beacon of hope for others. God Bless You
ReplyDeleteSir, incredible and salute to your resoluteness. I hope we get to see more of organisation serving officers and Armed forces personnel getting their rightful place.
ReplyDeleteKudos to you for your grit and singlemindedness. You have done more for ex-serviceman than any of the directorates meant for welfare of ex-serviceman
ReplyDeleteAir Cmde Ashok Kumar , VSM
ReplyDeleteVeteran
I salute your courage of conviction. your perseverance, a little inner voice continuously goading you to never say die , your honesty , sincerity and your ability to convince and win over even the non believers to your side. Your case will continue to be a guiding beacon not only for similarly wronged veterans but also those so ruthlessly short charged by MoD babus as also our very own entrusted with the task of looking after the welfare of all those placed below them.
Well fought Maj Virk, Veteran.
Bravo. You have asked the right questions about the top brass in our system who behave spineless for material gains which is very unfortunate. We must have all our rights to claim the honour you deserve by your dedicated work. Proud of you being brave. Colonel Cs panda
ReplyDeleteLONG LIVE BRO U FOUGHT FOR OUR HONOUR TOO....GOD BLESS .... REMAIN AN INSPIRATION FOR ALL TIMES..REGARDS
ReplyDeleteExemplary for all of us . Great show . Any one would have wilted but you have shown tremendous patience and grit . God bless you .
ReplyDeletePainful to come to terms that your own disown you and that you have to fight to keep your memories alive as destiny has kept you alive. The valiant go down fighting and none remember. Gratitude is like a drop of water on a hot pan it evaporates without leaving a trace. Brand every soldier with a hot iron on the forehead before release so that the nation is forced to remember and bows it's head in shame that they stole the comfort of the soldier and culled him like a horse without remorse.
ReplyDeleteCongratulations your resolve has has gone viral Sir.
Sir, being a Gunner's son, I am doubly proud of your self belief and upholding core values of a soldier and fighting to restore it. Your saga is perhaps self made by us only.
ReplyDeleteUndoubtedly, a valiant fight against the babus & now politicians run army. You deserve to be honoured & saluted for fighting & winning for a genuine cause of izzat if nothing else.
ReplyDeletePlease help/ guide people having such issues or problems.
Would be a pleasure to be of any help & support to all your future endeavours.
Regards,
Lt Col S G Vashisht (veteran)
SG Lt Col, had taken Volunteer retirement on compassionate grounds.
91+8238944222.
Sir that's off to you. We remember you as our Div Officer in A Squadron in NDA. Interestingly, Canada recognizes us Indian Militarymen as a veteran.
ReplyDeleteRegards
We Cdr Rahul Agarwal ( Retd)
Canada
+1(519)6940230
HS is truly a Complete Man.
ReplyDeleteDear Sir
ReplyDeleteIt is extremely rare to find an officer like you. Firstly I am inspired by your resolve. Secondly I full agree with your views on the systematic degradation of our precedence in matters of state. Our institutions and customs are facing progressive dilution and interference from outside. I feel now our efforts should be to ensure that our parity is restored to that at the formation of Independent India . Hope someone takes up this issue in earnest. It is a matter of pride in countries like the US to have served even a short stint in the Armed Forces with them rising to becoming Presidents Vice Presidents and Senators. For India to be truly great the national conscience must be moved by the blood and sweat of our soldiers and due respect be accorded. It is a shame you had to fight such a tough battle after hanging up your uniform.
Dear Major Virk
ReplyDeleteIt’s a fascinating tale of your fight against injustice. I took a PR in June 2011 and have been denied Ex-Serviceman status by my hometown Zilla Sainik Board citing same old & stupid definition of Ex-Servicemen. I had served 15yrs 6months and an Ex-NDA like you. Had given 7 yrs in Sainik School too before NDA. Currently, based out of Gurgaon doing my own business in IT Consulting. Could you share the copy of the order on my mail or share a link from where I can download it. My email ID is alokrai.in @ gmail.com . Thanks a ton Sir for taking this fight to a logical end and help a lot like me who have been deprived the status in spite giving our best years to the services. Looking forward to your mail / link.
Regards ��
Dear Sir,
ReplyDeleteIt was such a pleasure to read your blog and an even greater satisfaction to know that Servicemen in situations such as yourself have finally been accorded the dignity they so rightfully deserve.
May I please know if a copy of the judgement was sent to IHQ (MoD) and all Zila Sainik Boards. Knowing Military, they are capable for putting your status down as a 'one off case' and shifting the goal post so that no other benefits.
Like yourself, I too had to seek premature retirement from the Army after 12 years with the Parachute (Special Forces) and it pains that the years spent in service to the Nation count as nothing. 12 years of my life - the most fulfilling - appear wasted.
May I request you to please email me your contact details so that I can understand our status in detail.
Regards,
Karanbir Singh Sandhu
(buddysandhu@yahoo.com)
How unfair! 12 years in the Special Forces count for nothing!
DeleteAnd the years of training at various Institutions prior to getting commissioned!
Every one who has been honourably discharged or retired from service deserves to be a Veteran. Service in SF Units, Bomb Disposal, etc deserves to be multiplied by a factor of five, due to the operational stress and risk factors
Hats off to you dear Maj Virk!
ReplyDeleteThis nation may understand our plight better if someone makes a full feature film and and exhibits what goes on in MOD n AHQ. Hope you will allow this to happen. Just one more sacrifice for the good of our nation.
Well done Maj Virk,the way you fought your case and the way you have presented the entire case,the language & the approach,the determination all needs appreciation.Veteran from 3 Services must read this
ReplyDeleteProud of you sir.
ReplyDeleteHats Off !!! SALUTES !!! THREE CHEERS !!!
ReplyDeleteSir... Your struggle penned so articulately rekindled my energy... Thank you so much... Regards
ReplyDeleteHow painful it is, serving the nation in uniform for so long and getting denied the status of ex service man.only the person affected knows the pain.hats off for your brilliant fight.you are true soldier.congrats.Nagaraj ex sgt
ReplyDeleteDear Sir
ReplyDeleteI am also similarly affected.
May I have your email id to contact you.
Mine is veduiyer@gmail.com
Well done and kudos from the HEART OF THE GRIEVANCES ridden Ex-IAF Veteran,S GUNASEKARAN hailing from Salem presently living in CHENNAI at 63+years of Age
ReplyDeleteWhat I couldn't get through both in deriving the benefits of Ex-serviceman in Civil Service due to jugglery of Jargons of Technicalitities adopted by the very Babus in MOD in denying me My RIGHT to count my formercolour Service as an acclaimed ELECTRICAL FITTER Group-I Tradesman of IAF from 19/05/1973 to 31/05/1988 (15Yrs + 13 Days) including the ab-initio Training imparted to me and RECOGNISED BONAFIDE EX-SERVICEMAN.
The MOD didn't recognize the counting of my former Active Defence Service as a TECHNICAL TRADESMAN of IAF with the ensuing CIVIL SERVVIC upon being reemployed as JUNIOR ENGINEER (E) selected by COMPETITIVE EXAM based on the very QUALIFICATION of "DIPLOMA IN ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING" acquired from IAF Training Course.
Though RECOGNISED my IAF qualification certificate and reemployed,my EFFORTS to claim the COUNTING OF MY FORMER MILITARY COMBATANT SERVICE with the CIVIL SERVICE as availed by an Ex-ARMY veteran in a similar case assiduously fought and waded through SUCCESSFULLY.
But alas, I was denied the BENEFIT by MOD,which could not be fought through LEGAL BATTLE since it unsurprisingly insurmountable.
In the next CIVILIAN SERVICE in BSNL erstwhile Dept of Telecom,my Efforts to fight a legitimate CASE in CAT,CHENNAI Bench was dilly-dallied for over an Year because of the meek TREATMENT meted out by the CAT CHENNAI by dismissing my case filed through s LAWYER due to the fact that the LAWYER didn't attend the FINAL HEARING on the Date of hearing ,which seemed well orchestrated because I was not served with any LEGAL NOTICE or the VERDICT though I am the PETITIONER till date.
In BSNL service too,My efforts to claim the SALARY INCREMENT even through the battle up to The Honorable CIC Mr.Seth who had unwillingly DENIED ME THE RIGHT illegitimately.
I have an ambition to CLAIM the above said PRIVILEGES through MY GRIEVANCES MOBILE APP recently ushered in Vogue.
I have the LAST RAY OF HOPE that
"TRUTH ALONE TRIUMPHS".
Jai JAWAN! Jai Hind!!
Will ever top brass of army will ever stand up
ReplyDeleteLike a true Blue blood Artillery officer you blew them away!
ReplyDeleteThey were not just outgunned but stunned.
Bravo!
Kudos to you for the update.
ReplyDeleteS GUNASEKARAN
Ex-IAF VETERAN
Mobile WhatsApp No:9486106260
I salute you sir. Naam Namak aur Nishan. Awesome sir.
ReplyDeleteWell expressed writeup. Proud of Warriors like you who secure the objective no matter how big the challenge.
ReplyDeleteI understand the humiliation our fraternity has been going through due do our own doings. Meekly accepting the decisions of babus who are always jealous and would leave no opportunity to put us down is an easy step by our hierarchy who forget their own past.
ReplyDeleteBut warriors like you are always there to help the fraternity. Congratulations for the great work.
Sir, I had tears while reading this struggle tale. The top brass is so spineless is known in army circles. It is said that a dog doesn't eat dog meat but JAG officers are different breed. There is a very strong under current against babus and our top brass. Future is not very bright for forthright officers. Mediocrity is propped up and professionalism is looked down upon. Weldone sir. All ranks will remain indebted to you. Chadhti kalan.
ReplyDeleteDear Major Virk Sir,
ReplyDeleteCongratulations for upholding the valour and honour of the Faujis. I salute you for the great courage and perseverance. It is a sad day for our Country where an ex-Soldier with long service behind him was taken out of the list of the ESM only because of the reason that he is prematurely retired. How ridiculous it is! I feel pity for those high ranking Army Generals sitting in the AC rooms in the Army Headquarters, who does not have the guts to object the civilian junior masters illogical decisions.
I give the full marks to your Lady wife who said "Lally Relax". That's what we expect from our companions in this old age "Lally relax" .
Virk Sir, I normally do not read such lengthy mails but delete them. But your words were like vedic verses, full of psychology, valour, courage and giving hope to all the frustrated ones.
I read the whole script in one go. As some one opined you have a great qualify of a writer. I should urge you to publish this in News papers, so that an Ex-servicemen plights will be understood by a common man.
Wish you all the very best and good health.
With warmest regards,
Major Cherunny Chemmanoor
Great. I am a Gunner too. It is pathetic that Virk had to fight against the very System which is rotten from top. Sad that COAS and other Top Brass care little about the Org.except their self.
ReplyDeleteKudos to Make Virk .
I am most affected AIR VETERAN who served the nation in my best part of life ,not transferred to reserve on completion of my reg.terms of engagement of 9 years ,retained for 279 days sent out with wrong caption of at own request,having 2 100%deaf mute daughters one single kidney with multiple disorders .At last my SLP FILED IN S.C DISMISSED BECAUSE OF DELAY IN FILING for 443 days not explained ,as usual other words on merit.YOU PL.PUBLISH BOOK ON THIS.
ReplyDeleteWe have more enemies within our ranks who add fuel to the fire lit by the babus in MOD and most of them are in the senior ranks.
ReplyDeleteWe have more enemies within our ranks who add fuel to the fire lit by the babus in MOD and most of them are in the senior ranks.
ReplyDeleteGreat efforts sir. N thanks for showing light to many of us.
ReplyDeleteAn awe inspiring true story. My hat off to Maj Virk for this great victory. You are a true soldier who has fought tooth and nail till you achieved victory. I salute you. Only when MOD is manned by and for the military can we expect anything better
ReplyDeleteDear Maj. Virk,
ReplyDeleteHaving been inspired by your fight, I now intend to fight for the inclusion of the training period of officers towards their reckonable service, which is a benefit enjoyed by every babu who is just a ONE-EXAM-PASS beaurocrat himself, but who so vehemently denies the same privilege to the simple minded faujis.
Anyone else wanting to join me, or guide me, please get in touch with me.
jassmarwah@gmail.com 9811075730
Dear Lally Sir, You are a true warrior and a beacon for many ex soldiers who find themselves in the sea of injustice on various counts. Your case shall be a source of inspiration for all. Happy for your victory against all odds. It should be taught as a case study at our training institutes for Young Officers and Regimental Centres (Wonder if our establishment would allow that). Let's give it wide publicity. Regards !!
ReplyDeleteTruly a great victory.
ReplyDeleteDear sir
ReplyDeleteTruely a great victory . Mod treats fauj as a return on investment. It's the premium paid for the final day . If there is no war babu and also neta would like to milk vites on our behalf andakeep reducing the premium and listen to he babu who is actually running the sarkar .
Politically correct text in our files too is a clear indication that each wants to save his pension and hope like hell God takes care of India.
Best wishes sir
The story by the veteran is inspiring and it shows the apathy of the govt towards our forces which guard the borders in most demanding circumstances. The issue holds importance as IAS lobby is trying to cow down the armed forces and this trend continuing by misleading the politicians athat if Indian Army is not reined they can undertake the coup.
ReplyDeleteSir, we feel elated that you took the battle to its conclusion and this case will remain a landmark judgement providing solace to numerous litigants.
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You are an inspiration to those who are denied their legitimate honour and dignity after they served the nation in Olive Greens. I admire and congratulate you.
ReplyDeleteCol.(Retd) Prakash Rao
Thank you so much for all the appreciation. To be honest, I had penned down my experience only for my NDA course-mates WA Group, as I do periodically in my usual early morning musings. I could never in my wildest dreams ever have imagined how far and wide my post would travel and the impact it would have. It’s been, and continues to be, a truly overwhelming, humbling yet rewarding experience I have had over the last two days.
ReplyDeleteThe number of calls and messages received by me from every corner of the world is absolutely astounding. The blog seems to have touched chords across the spectrum. From the very senior Veterans to young officers. I have had very senior Veteran officers messaging and calling me to tell me that I have restored their faith in the organization which they thought was beginning to crumble, knowing that there are still upright officers ready to take on the system for honor and izzat.
I have always believed that ever so often one should move out of one's comfort zone and venture into the wilderness of one's intuition to listen to the voice of your soul. That is exactly what I did.
Fearlessness comes when one follows one's conscience and that is what I have done my whole life. Guru Gobind Ji had said, "Je zulm karna paap hai teh zulm sehna vi paap hai". There are so many issues that I feel need to be taken up but I also know that age is catching up and they do extract quite a bit and take a heavy toll on you......but I also know that, 'I have promises to keep and miles to go before I sleep...........'.
Of course, my biggest victory will be when this Definition of ESM is suitably amended, as has been directed by the court in my judgment, so that thousands of officers may benefit.
Lastly, much as I would like to, it’s not really possible for me to reply individually to each one of you, but I can be reached at virkhps@yahoo.com and I will try my best to reply to all the mails.
I thank all of you once again for your appreciation.
Well fought Virk. Proud of your resolve and spirit. Perhaps, your case will set a precedent for future cases. With the kind of top leadership we have, things will only get worse; but for now, you have shown us how it's possible to fight back when the organisation shows its helplessness and leaves you to fight on your own. I salute you and wish you a bright future.
ReplyDeleteCol (Retd) PKS BEDI.
I have gone through your blog ,Sir, with lot of care though as a case study... I firstly Salute your patience and a strong resolve to get the case tuned to what is duly deserved . Still , I feel Soldier of any day is always recognized by his simplicity and the self honor , which perhaps is never recognized as a greatest military virtue ,by and large... However, there has always been a need felt to pursue the issues of the type to redress the deserving ability by way of a justified logical recourse ,as you have undertaken for the benefit of the larger Arena of the soldierly trait ... I got much overwhelmed while I studied your case in greater DETAILS ... Perhaps, the policy makers who areaone of us need be educated to ensure that , the words written expressed should at no cost be detrimental to the larger organisational interests, where any future need of taking a long drawn legal battles could be examined by sheer vision with synergy in mind... This way the bureaucracy has to be educated to ensure that the Soldierly values of The Serving fraternity, The Armed Forces Veterans or even those who had to seek discharge due to bonafide reasons ,get their respectful dues as deserved... Once again my best regards and a big Jai Hind to you
ReplyDeleteDear Major Virk
ReplyDeleteNo words to express about your courage and fortitude. You have done the Armed Forces so proud. Lt Cdr CV Prakash (retd) 63 Lima Sqn. 9743219388. Would you be so kind to share your number sir.
Before writing any comment let me tell my association with Lally Virk. I am Col. Prem Vijeshwar. He was my GPO when he joined his first Regt. 246 Mtn Regt. and i was the 2 IC. A Silver Gunner in YO's, he was exceptionally talented young officer. A very fine sportsman, be it hockey, Basket ball or any other sports. I was always very fond of them and this relation was always mutual. An Intelligent & Bold officer; even as 2/LT could stand for his point of view and could even stand in front of CO if he felt he was right.
ReplyDeleteKnowing Lally so well let me tell that I'm not at all surprised to what he has done. He is not just one in the crowd. He rather stands out wherever he may be. I'm really proud off to what he has done and achieved. It is only he who could stand to that much pressure for three long years. I was always very fond of him and loved him so much and now let me say i respect him for what he have achieve. May i request you Lally to visit us along with Jasmine whenever you come to Delhi.
A Great victory. Very well written piece brought tears in my eyes. I salute your resoluteness. I totally agree that we while in uniform can do a lot to change our life in service and after retirement. We in uniform are responsible for lots ills we face on retirement.
ReplyDeleteHai Lally. This is Maj Gen VK Jain .We were together in Delhi. Nice hearing from you. I am at Ambala. Please call 7206016115. It will be nice
ReplyDeleteVery well done. You are an example to follow. Best wishes to your family members.
ReplyDeleteMany thanks for sharing this account Sir. Great victory. Sad that you had to fight so hard for it. Shows us how long and hard the road ahead is but more importantly, for those who fight the good fight to the end, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Jai Hind Sir.
ReplyDeleteGr8 achievement sir and what a fight. U do not need any awards. Awards will fall short in front of your fight . Your personal accounts will benefit many. I salute you.
ReplyDeleteTruly inspiring sir. Absolutely agree on all your observations on having reached such a sorry state over the years of spineless leadership. Salute you for the determination and consistency to follow your convictions. Regards
ReplyDeleteVery moving. Very inspiring.Excellent write up
ReplyDeleteMaj Harpal Singh Virk is my course mate (54 NDA). This is what I have penned for him (Cdr Sanjay Thatte)
ReplyDeleteTHE COMPLETE MAN :
RE-INVENTED
Our own Lally 'twas
That Raymond selected as 'The Complete Man'
For the demeanor, the attitude
The looks & the outdoor tan
17 years in the Army
And the most brilliant of careers
Denial of ESM status
Almost brought him to tears
The Armed Forces Tribunal
He had to approach
But that retired judge
Was full of negative 'soch'
The lawyer who represented Lally
A specimen of the highest order
What Lally did
Was give him the 'marching order'
"Just your appearance
Will win half the battle"
And these puffed up judges
Will behave like cattle
So said this lady
In Supreme Court she practiced
A true professional
Nothing her sharp eyes missed
Then began the battle
Of this 'One man team'
Against the 'great' MoD
Uphill task it did seem
But armed with documents
From Amrik and then Cheema
Lally was determined
To grind them to chopped meat 'keema'
With truth on his side
And irrefutable logic to boot
Time was now ripe
To uproot 'evil' from the root
Hearing after hearing
And year after year
Without frustration setting in
He fought on without fear
The upheaval in his family
With that big health issue
So emotionally taxing
Yet he stuck to this issue
That 'summing up' speech of his
Resulted in pin drop silence
It 'moved' those obdurate judges
To a meaningful silence
Finally came victory
To 'Naam, namak, nishaan'
And restored the ESM status
With 'aan, baan & shaan'
We hope this victory
Now sets a court precedence
For all similar cases
Coming in now and hence
What Lally has done
Is charted a new course
Making us doubly proud
He is from our course
The way he has penned
This 'story' in his blog
It 'speaks' to you from the heart
And keeps hope afloat like a log
During the entire period
His anger, he never vented
This is our 'Complete Man'
Re- invented !!!
Masterpiece!
DeleteIt definitely is an incredible landmark achievement . Heartiest congratulations to you and your motivators.
ReplyDeleteIn the same breathe it speaks volumes of our weakened and paralysed generals and the judiciary. The latter are getting a taste of their naam namak and nishan! The former would get in time to come. Hope they are able to size up.to their stature at least after that. Good luck to the CRUSADER in you. Col VB Kelkar (Retd ) Veteran
Well done Major Virk. Proud of you.
ReplyDeleteDear Maj. Virk, I am stunned to read about the painful period in your life and am speechless that you had to go through such an ordeal. At the same time I am so proud of you of how you stood your ground and overcame those obstacles. I wish you all the happiness that life has in store for you. May Baba Nanak bless you and your family abundantly.
ReplyDeleteManorite Rachpal Madan
Hi Harpal,
ReplyDeleteFighting a battle is probably easier than fighting the system. Welldone my friend you beat the odds. Knowing you since 1967 (class5), I am not surprised that you locked horns, as you always did with the bullies in school.You make us Manorites proud for standing up to injustice and coming out a winner. God Bless and may you and your loved ones be safe, healthy and happy always.
Cheers! Buddy����
Nirankar S.
Dear Col Virk,
ReplyDeleteI am Maj Gen Dhruv C Katoch. I retired in 2009 and am currently the Editor of a Magazine called SALUTE.
May I have your permission to publish this in SALUTE Magazine.
My email is dhruvkatoch@hotmail.com
Regards. You are a man the Forces are proud of. Well done.
Girte hain ghudsavar
ReplyDeleteMaidane jung mein
Woh tifl kya gire
Jo ghutno ke bal chale
Well done Maj Virk...
Well done Maj Virk Sir. A fantastic example of what true belief and determined fight against injustice can achieve.
ReplyDeleteIt has been an honour to have served in the army with such wonderful soldiers. I guess the babu’s will never understand our feelings and emotions we have for the the years dedicated to this honourable profession.
I was just reflecting this morning on the events of the last few days and got thinking.
ReplyDeleteHow does one begin to thank ‘your own’ when you are numb, dumbstruck and speechless?
Well, let me make an attempt……
There was a Jewish man named Yankel, who had a bakery, Crown Heights in Germany.
He always asked, "You know why I’m alive today?"
"I was a kid, just a teenager at the time in Germany.
Nazis were killing Jews with no mercy.
We were on the train being taken to Auschwitz by Nazis. Night came and it was deathly cold in that compartment.
The Germans left us on the side of the tracks overnight, sometimes for days, without any food. There were no blankets to keep us warm. Snow was falling everywhere. Cold winds were hitting our cheeks, every second. We were hundreds of people in that terribly cold night. No food. No water. No shelter. No blankets ".
"The blood in our bodies started freezing. It was becoming ice.
Beside me, there was a beloved elderly Jewish man from my hometown. He was shivering from head to toe, and looked terrible. So I wrapped my arms around him to warm him up.
I hugged him tightly to give him some heat. I rubbed his arms, his legs, his face, his neck. I begged him to try to be alive.
I encouraged him.
All night long, I kept this man warm this way.
I was tired, and freezing cold myself. My fingers were numb, but I didn’t stop rubbing heat into that old man’s body.
Hours and hours went by. Finally, morning came and the sun began to shine. I looked around to see the other people.
To my horror, all I could see were frozen bodies. All I could hear was deathly silence.
Nobody else in that cabin was alive. That freezing night killed them all.
They died from the cold. Only two people survived: The old man and me.
The old man survived because I kept him warm....and I survived because I was warming him.
May I tell you the secret to survival in this world?
When you warm other people’s hearts, you will remain warm yourself.
When you support, encourage and inspire others, then you will discover support, encouragement and inspiration in your own life as well.
In this day and age, wars are few and far between. We, in the Indian Armed Forces need to realise that for us, in peace time soldiering, the only way to survive is to ‘embrace one another and keep each other warm’. There is no other way.
My ardent appeal to all policy makers in MOD and our Red Tabs sitting in positions of power in the AHQ…….guys kindly keep the credo, “Nemo Resideo” alive !! There are thousands of soldiers who have given the best years of their lives to the Armed Forces in the service of the nation. Please do not let them ‘freeze’?
Lastly, I thank all of you from the core of my being for embracing me with all your appreciation, warmth, love and support.
Today, I know for sure, I will will not ‘freeze’.
Jai Hind.
Major Harpal Singh Virk (Veteran)
IMHO, the reason your post has struck such a chord is that the fight you took up was not about yourself. It was about all of us lesser mortals who found themselves diminished every day because our own would at a whim diminish us.
ReplyDeleteWhat you have demonstrated is:
These walls?
They need a little blood to fall.
In the materialistic world we live in, there are constant reminders of how successful people turn their time, effort and ingenuity into wealth. And we applaud them, because money buys things which in turn makes us happy and thus earns the respect of everyone around us.
ReplyDeleteBut, respect can be had without money. Respect is a measure of you as a person. It is a deep, personal and moral measure afforded you by other people including yourself. Most business people who make money have priorities but not principles. In this personal story of determination and tenacity to take on the establishment, Lally Virk has shown us how important it is to stand on the foundations of principles. His personal victory against the mighty establishments of this country is a small victory for all of us who value our lives based on principles. The victory may not bring him materialistic satisfaction, but it certainly warms the cockles of our hearts.
Well done Lally.
Well said, Gonsy.
ReplyDeleteSir ,
ReplyDeleteLet me quote here a pertinent comment ..
"Soldier never dies. But in India we often kill him.."
What you were denied, and the ordeal you had undergone to take a stand against it, amply testify the above statement.
You came out successful. *Here you stand as an exception.* Because, many of us would have resigned and accepted it, as our destiny...
WITH ALL REGARDS
(Sharad)
Lally,
ReplyDeleteYour post has indeed left me in a state of awe. Have known you as a course mate, friend, soldier, the complete man and so much more. That you went through all this at time when you were battling with another serious problem, speaks volumes about your resilience. A true follower of Waheguru!
How I wish I was present in the court on your last hearing . I can imagine the scene - a great sublime in the middle of so much that is ridiculous ! It would have left people spell bound . Hats off to you Lally.
I have read this post several times - gives a kind of a kick each time I read. Thanks for sharing.
I always loved you friend, now you have created in me an admirer.
Regards.
That's an excellent compliment to our dear Lally
DeleteDear Lally
DeleteHaving known you well as your coursemate and a good friend , I was both pained and glad to read your struggle to restore your honour . The callous manner in which the Army HQ and the MoD treated you is deplorable .I am ashamed of the pen pushers and weak kneed offrs and brass who man the AHQ and MoD. It was heartening to see that you took on these behemoths with only your righteousness to back you . I'm proud that your straight shooting from the heart has found its mark with the judiciary as well as thousands of countrymen and nearly all our ilk in uniform and the veterans .
I'm sure your case will form the foundation for many more offrs who are fighting for their identity .
I only hope that the AHQ and MoD will do the honourable thing and right this wrong for the thousands of offrs in the same plight .
Col AK Jayachandran ( veteran)
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ReplyDeleteMaj Virk Sir, I had tears in my eyes by the time I finished reading what you went through. At least now our senior lot should wake up and take responsibility for the officers and men they command, instead of just cooling their heels in the in search of gubernatorial appointments. Otherwise what moral right will they have left to command their juniors. Army stands today because of upright officers like you. Just thinking of you my chest fills with pride. I salute your undying spirit Sir. Jai Hind.
ReplyDeleteHaving known you as an instructor in the National Defence Academy Sir, we looked up to you then and we continue to look up to you now. You taught us the art of soldiering and you continue to live up to our ideals. You may not be knowing but a lot of the cadets joined Arty because of you. It is sad that you had to leave early. The army needed principled uncompromising officers like you Sir. It pains my heart to read what an officer of your calibre had to go through to restore his honour. My salute. Jai Hind Sir.
ReplyDeleteWelcome for doing such a fine good job for all others to follow hats of for your goodefforts
ReplyDeleteDear Lally,
ReplyDeleteGreat to read your fight for justice once again. Having sorted out my problems with penning my comments on your blog, I am revisiting your post after nearly six months.
Its obviously a no brainer for me to say that this blog has ignited a fire that will be hard to control by the powers that be. Having joined the NDA along with you and being fortunate to be able to respond to your post after having been in a uniform for a long time, if the only one thing that I take from your post is the need for recognition that we Faujis crave for, not for any monetary benefits or the position in the society but just for being who we are and the pride we have in serving this great country of ours. It is our quest for IZZAT that drives us to undertake the most challenging of assignments often at the peril of our lives. And when we find that after having given the best years of our youth and life to the organisation that we love, we are denied the recognition as an Ex Serviceman, it hurts; and it hurts big time. Your fight for that recognition is what stands out as a beacon of hope for many such wonderful young men who had to take the painful decision to leave the Armed Forces for multifarious reasons. Knowing you and having interacted with you while you were fighting the case in the AFT, I know it was not for the monetary or other fringe benefits of being an Ex Serviceman, but for the IZZAT and the Thumbs Up from your Respected Father from up above, who was pained to see his third generation Fauji son being denied the right to be called an Ex Serviceman. Your fight has galvanized a vast majority of young Officers who had to leave the Armed Forces for varied reasons, and are looking for the the same IZZAT of being called an Ex Serviceman. I wish all of them success in their fight for recognition, and hope that they will benefit from the 'memorable' experience of your.
Great writing as ever.
Salute your indomitable spirit.God Bless,God Speed & Good Luck.
ReplyDeleteNice one sir. Beautifully covered & you have set an excellent precedence for other officers/men in similar dilemma. Cheers & God bless.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely flawless description. Full of emotions and pride.
ReplyDeleteRegards to you Sir the way you stood and fought for. your right. Your battle with the hierarchy and system for right of Veterans is praiseworthy. I learnt a lot the way you have written the whole episode of your fight for justice. Regards and Best Wishes. Col LN Sharma
ReplyDeleteDear Maj Lally
DeleteExcellent Grit n hard work for Izzat .Shows how Incompetent our Red Tabs ,meek ,bow to Babus and pass their Time of Tenure by Lipa Potti effecting our own Armd Forces.We require No Enemies.Salute to You.There are many more Things that we can Achieve.Well Done.
Col Satish Chander
45 / NDA
It was courageous sir, salute you
ReplyDeleteHi Virk sir try to spk to me .My no is 8283828681 and 9814485433.Maj Tinu Virk of 69 Armoured.Presently Advocate .86 Reg Cassino.Office 63 C Distt Courts Amritsar.Resi Point Cavalry ,Jubilee Rd ,Jandiala Guru,Amritsar. Together we can be a help for many.I m also suffering as you did.Hope to hear from you soon.Regards.Maj M S Virk Adv.
ReplyDeleteA very interesting account of a fight back by a third generation soldier who took on the might of the bureaucracy and bureaucrats in uniform. Veterans and widows of physical casualties are forced to go to Courts in the absence of unwillingness of Babu's to reason beyond the letters and files. Well done Major Virk
ReplyDeleteGreat dedication Lalli.
ReplyDeleteThe higher hierchy sitting in the ivory tower at Delhi are but Stooges who have only a aim of their personal gains.
Self being 4th generation soldier and a gunner am extemly proud of you.
Have worked with the beaurocracy from close post retirement. They stand with their cadre. We only show a false front. More interested in
I, me and myself.
Not babus. It is the politicians who call reduction in expenditure and force the hands of babus. But they, the politicians, themselves write increase for themselves. Get full pension after a 5 years term. Some get pensions for MLA and then MP. The height of this politicians prank is what is giving pension to personal staff of ministers once they put in 2 years and some days. Then they recruit a new set of personal staff so that they can keep their party clan happy. This is happening in Kerala. Paying pension to hundreds of personal staff is not a crime for this white clad sorry humans. I came from a family where once we had seven Airmen (sadly I could not make it due to knock knee) seeing such happenings to servicemen is shocking. An officer friend of mine who fought in Kargil is not an exserviceman for some silly reason. You stood upto it and won. Heart warming narration. Cheers!
ReplyDeleteAll offrs, Jcos Ors reading Harpal sirs blog also spk to me to do something meaning full for the brave hearts and Veer naris including little children of soldiers of Armed forces.It pains to see old champs fighting to put bread on the table,and the haughtiness of Babus.I with the kind permission of Harpal sir take this venture to be of any assistance to those who need any legal help as I speciailse in Aft, criminal, civil ,matrimonial ,MA CT,and Matrimonial legal summits.Kindly note my no 8283828681 and 9814485433.Regards, Maj M S Virk Adv chamber no 63 C District Courts Amritsar, cavalier of 69 Armoured Regiment.
ReplyDeleteProud of you Maj Virk. You made us proud. You are a spirited ex-NDA, a committed fauji and a true patriot of our nation. I salute you !
ReplyDeleteIt was great going through your penned experience and I was feeling so proud to have been associated with you, the perfect example of An Officer and a Gentleman. You came out as a true fighter as described by Guru Gobind Singh Ji - सवा लाख से एक लड़ाऊं .... You took on the might of the system head ON and undoubtedly the catch word or prime virtue in this regard had to be Courage of Convictions. It is indeed a case study for posterity.
ReplyDeleteWell done Maj HPSVirk ji.Remember dear 'Jiska koi nahin hota uska KHUDA,GOD ji,Bhagwen,Lord,Saint,Faqir ....hota hai hamesha.Ur description.Katha has really filled my eyes with tears.Thanks dear.My hopes n Prayers to our WAHEGURU ji to bless u n ur family as always with HIS blessings.Tagra Raho n Radha Soami dear Harpal ji....🙏🙏🙏👍
ReplyDeleteOur Salute Sir! You fought like a soldier!!
ReplyDeleteSir, a brilliant fight - well fought, and deservedly won.
ReplyDeleteBeen through the same sir.
Would it be possible to share the court judgement sir?
Dear Maj Virk it was great going through your battle for Honour and Dignity. I admire your will power and determination. Unaware of your compulsions for taking a PMR but I am certain that Army is at a loss by not having officers like you on it's roll.
ReplyDeleteHeartiest congratulations and a big Thank you for your determination.
Hope some sense prevails in the top brass.
Hope they remember the oath at commissioning.
over smart guy, by saying Regular permanent commissioned officers and short service commissioned officers. SSC, EC, WSES , PC all are commissioned officers in the regular army.
ReplyDeleteA battle well fought ! A Victory well deserved ! Hats off to you !
ReplyDeleteWhat a great move. Really inspired and motivated. Regards sir
ReplyDeleteMajor virk. Well fought. Unfortunately, the Armed Forces top brass will not shake up to stand for the rights and prestige of their soldiers or the veterans. OROP is a living example for which veterans have been fighting, literally sitting on the streets.
ReplyDeleteFerdy,
ReplyDeleteDear Lally Sir,
Indeed a g8 victory all alone over the System. No amt of kudos are enough but similarly no amt of shameless titles can go to our top Brass.
Have gone thru most of the feedback comments also, but wat surprises is the callous trend prevailing.
Y has the defn not been amended.
Y have the rules not been amended.
Y does AFT give grant case specific only when it's an obvious fact for all across the board who availed PMR before the 20 yrs.
Even till dt so many anomalies in status of our AFs prevail .
So the real victory will be when our Top Brass take a stand against the MOD & Babus etc like you did against the numerous wrongs prevailing. Know it's Hopes against Hope's.
Just read thru.
ReplyDeleteDon't come across too many sodiers like you. Our own harm us more than the babus. Salute you Major Virk.
Jai Hind
Above note is from Deepak Sharma
ReplyDeleteCongratulations Maj Virk on your convictions and Guts to take on the MoD. They feel they are a the custodions of knowledge and wisdom. Shame on our fraternity who do not have the guts to say NO when they know that the juniors would suffer.
ReplyDeleteEvery word of your Musings is meaningful and a true reflection of matters in the service. There are so many issues that require creasing which require thinking minds and willing working hands not just time passers. Delhi is a cushy posting. I had the experience of commenting on officer's cases sometimes running up to 20 handwritten pages only to be told VN why such long comments justifying the issue. Just be brief 7 to 8 lines and dismiss the case !! here was an officer languishing with an issue that was disrupting his career and life, yet people did not want to shake their hands. In the instant case, it was perhaps an issue of Izzat but I am talking of others where it is the question of bread and butter their existence. The status associated with the service is terribly -terribly important.
ReplyDeleteIf the Govt cant improve existing order , it should never reduce it. After all the military was the best organization the nation was proud of. Very happy that you fought it out. What has been achieved in your case is a landmark for 2 reasons. One, you won in spite of an environment where the Govt itself goes in an appeal against the decision of its very own AFT in favorable awards. Second, you fought it on your own without any institutional help from the organization or the huge veteran community.
Maj Lally Virk, I bow to your perseverance to protect not only your honour but the collective honour of all former soldiers, who languish in oblivion, in search of their 'identity'. Sir, I have without your permission, tweeted your story from my handle, as I felt it must reach as many eyes & ears to awaken them!🙏
ReplyDeleteYour fight was for the conviction you held so strongly, however more than winning a case, it shows the way to others to not to buckle down but to fight back the babudom.
ReplyDeleteGrateful to you
This is such a brilliant piece. It tugs at the very chords of the heart. Nothing could be more demotivating and belittling then the agony of having to fight for your rightful identity. Even in Kautilya's Arthashastra, he identifies 34 different 'calamities' which affect adversely the fighting capacity of army. 'Lack of due honour' is the first among them.
ReplyDeleteOur country is fortunate to be blessed with the best soldiers in the world. The four wars and Kargil have amply demonstrated it. Sadly, it is also something that has largely been taken for granted.
As regards the senior hierarchy, and the inclination of a few to align and pander to the wishes of their bosses, this saying aptly sums it.
हमें तो अपनों ने लूटा,गैरों में कहां दम था। अपनी कश्ती ही वहां डूबी, जहां पानी कम था। बेदम थी तेरी कश्ती,ना तुझ में वह दम था।
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ReplyDeleteContact number or email ID?
ReplyDeleteWell done. Present and coming generations must know how to stand on your feet.
ReplyDeleteYou fought like a true soldier and came out victorious. Kudos.
ReplyDeleteHeartfelt Hats Off to You Maj Har Pal n earnest Salutes on practically each n every aspect involved in the case n it's battling out by You onto the premier podium. Words can't express the deadness , decadency/rottenness of our systems n governance. Hearing/ reading/ understanding this first person account consciously can. The eagerness is needed.
ReplyDeleteTouched to the brim n slightly beyond. Thru those unwept tears gift a Prayer for you -- God Bless You with the lasting Rainbows from now onwards.
Capt sudhanshu Singh ss 28.
When the honour is degraded, so is the will to fight, it will show when there is war.
ReplyDeleteDear Maj Virk,
ReplyDeleteI am Col RS Dhaul, a retd Gunner, 77 yrs of age, may be of your vintage. I was a late starter till I served with one Brig VK Das, VSM ( late Maj Gen), as his GSO3, actually his full tenure as offg BM in about 1977 In a hot fmn with 2 regular Inf bns and 1 AR Bn under comd in addition to normal Arty bde. He simply stood out among 4 brigs I served under, one before him and two after him at same post. A unique trait I found in his character was : he had no difference in what he said and what he did , which I used to think was impracticable. I liked him for lt and followed it for my life. As a result, I have achieved many aims in my life and got lasting happiness.
I am active today also, my aim now being to bring in a change in national character. I admit, it looks impossible but as confirmed by you, nothing is impossible. Through this message, I want to exchange my ideas with you and all other countrymen. Hence, I request everybody who trust themselves to contact me and offer their comments. Regards.
Can I have Maj Harpal Virk's contact number of email ID please?
ReplyDeleteCan I have Maj Harpal Virk's contact number of email ID please? Kindly reply to garewal.chd@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteJust read your story of the fight for your identity, well done a big salute for your determination.
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